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    Sean Guthrie
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    Post  Sean Guthrie Sun Nov 27, 2011 9:36 pm

    Mark your calendars its going to be big!!!

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    Highside20
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    Post  Highside20 Sun Nov 27, 2011 10:17 pm

    So TC is open motor and open ESC? This class seems to be aimed at the factory and pro drives and not so much the local racer. Was this done because it is hard to police? Why not a spec class or at least a sportsman class?
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    Post  Sean Guthrie Sun Nov 27, 2011 10:30 pm

    I should have put an explanation on that one, good catch Mike. Here is the reasoning behind it and this took a lot of consideration between max and I.

    All of the big races are running 17.5 or 21.5 no timing, 17.5 timing, and mod tc. We have RCA Touring for 21.5 no timing. And we aren't running a 17.5 timed class or a mod class. We also knew that we couldn't run a 13.5 no timing class or a 13.5 timing class because no one runs it. So we then had to decide what is easy to police, easy for our racers to adapt to, and what will draw other racers to the race.We also only wanted to only have one touring car class as we both feel that the TC car count will be the lowest count between 12th and TC.

    So:
    17.5 timing isn't to hard to police but not as easy as mod - advantage mod

    17.5 timing will require a lot of practice to get the ESC tuned correctly and gearing right. This is very hard for our racers who have never ran it and don't own the motors. Mod requires you to get the right gearing but anything under a 10.5 will be more power then most people will be able to handle and will not help lap times. It may make the straight shorter but it will be a handful everywhere else. We figured most people had or can borrow 6.5, 7.5, 8.5, etc. I for one have 5 motors in that range many I would lend out. - again advantage mod

    17.5 timing is ran in Colorado and other places. Mod isn't always ran and Mod is bringing a much smaller turn out at big races. With our track size most people who run 17.5 timing will not have an issue running a mod motor or continue running 17.5 timed. The big races the 17.5 times are almost the same as Mod times and that is on slightly larger tracks. On our track whatever is more comfortable to the driver will be faster. - Advantage slightly 17.5

    So with all of that we really felt that Mod was the best way to go. People can run whatever they want and its easy for everyone involved and we hope will yield the best results.

    darcydawg
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    Post  darcydawg Sun Nov 27, 2011 11:29 pm

    From this weekend in Cleveland:

    Stock 17.5 TC - 20 entries
    Super stock 17.5 TC - 10 entries
    Mod TC - 4 entries

    From IIC:
    Amateur 17.5 - 34 entries
    Stock 17.5 - 69 entries
    Super Stock 17.5 - 60 entries
    Mod TC - 40 entries

    I don't have a car to run the RCA class and I'm not ready to put mod motor in my touring car. Guess I'll keep running 17.5 blinky and just get run over on the straight.

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    Sean Guthrie
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    Post  Sean Guthrie Sun Nov 27, 2011 11:37 pm

    We are currently running 13.5 blinky which I really think people should run even in Mod. Its plenty fast in Mod. And we will stack the heats to keep the big names from running over slower people. It just seemed to work out great at the super stock nationals to have limited classes.
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    Post  Highside20 Mon Nov 28, 2011 12:14 pm

    My take is that I really want to try TC again with a serious goal of being competitive. I also would like to be able to travel to an IIC or snowbirds one day to race. Given that, I would prefer to run the same rules that an IIC or carpet nationals would run. That way I don’t have to relearn an esc, gears and motor when on foreign land.

    I hear a lot about how the times are close, but show me the last time a spec motor won a mod race at a big event. Looking at the times at Champs, Herbert was around 0.7 seconds fastest in mod than in spec. 0.7 seconds a lap when a single lap takes around 10 seconds is a huge advantage.

    None the less I will run within whatever rules you supply us. I’m very excited about TC this year and I hope that it will be fun. I just hope others have the same enthusiasm as I do about running the TC class this year.

    Mike H.
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    Post  Sean Guthrie Mon Nov 28, 2011 8:07 pm

    I couldnt agree more Mike. I would prefer to run 17.5 boosted more than anything else but here is why we aren't for now. Last year the last three races we had to combine our two tc classes and were still getting less then 8 cars. Part of that was from people getting burnt out, part of that was people switched to 12th scale, and the other part was I think people were running out of parts and money. People were also complaining a lot to me about power because of people not having the right esc or not knowing how to tune them. So we decided to start the season we need to run what we know everyone has and work to build the TC count. If we can get the TC class to were we know it can be and should be then we will gladly re-consider the class either changing it slightly or adding to it. Its easier to change as a group then it is to never have a group to change. At least thats my hope and prayers.
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    Post  Highside20 Mon Nov 28, 2011 8:44 pm

    I understand, it is best to start somewhere and see if the class grows. My TC won’t be ready for the first race and maybe not even the second race. I’m still waiting for Mr. Cyrul to ship my kit, it has been 6 weeks and counting. No

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